Sunday 22nd of December 2024

the state of a union .....

the state of a union .....

Julia Gillard has appealed to a handful of right-wing MPs for their support to avoid a humiliating defeat on the floor of this week's ALP national conference over same-sex marriage.

Having staked her leadership on keeping an election promise not to change the laws surrounding traditional marriage, the Prime Minister was forced yesterday to lobby individual ALP delegates as the Right faced defeat on the issue by as many as 10 votes.

Senior Labor sources said a meeting of the NSW Right last night agreed to allow MPs a conscience vote on same-sex marriage. The resolution partially backs Ms Gillard's position of opposing changes to the ALP party platform to allow same sex marriage but supporting a conscience vote of MPs on the issue.

However, the NSW Right grouping is still negotiating its position on the question of whether to support changes to the platform on same-sex marriage. The NSW Right meeting also unanimously backed a position where it would oppose any changes to the platform that moved to outlaw the offshore processing of asylum-seekers, and also backed Ms Gillard's push to alter the party platform to allow the sale of uranium to India.

The Left was yesterday increasingly confident of carrying changes to the party platform on same-sex marriage in what looms as the most contentious debate on the floor of the conference.

Ms Gillard's position of allowing MPs a conscience vote on same-sex marriage would involve a change to the party's rules so that MPs are not bound by the party platform. But even this would be politically problematic for Ms Gillard as it would be opposed by religious groups.

Same-sex marriage, asylum-seeker policy, uranium sales to India and more grassroots involvement for party members loom as contentious debates at the conference which begins on Friday in Sydney.

Key left convenor Doug Cameron, signalled the faction would not be content with a conscience vote on same-sex marriage.

Senator Cameron said a conscience vote was "a tactical manoeuvre rather than a matter of principle".

Labor's policy on asylum-seekers is also understood to be the subject of strong debate among right figures but a Labor source said yesterday that, ultimately, the faction would support Immigration Minister Chris Bowen's policy including his Malaysia Solution, which was scuttled by the High Court.

A number of key NSW Right delegates support same-sex marriage but they are facing pressure from the conservative Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Union, which opposes gay marriage, to fall into line with a united right faction position backing the Prime Minister.

But it is understood that delegates supported by the Australian Workers Union, the Transport Workers Union and the National Union of Workers are being targeted by lobbying on both sides of the debate.

Union sources last night said conversations were continuing over whether delegates would allow a "free vote" or if they would have to vote along union and factional lines.

Party insiders say the lobbying was aimed at convincing delegates before separate meetings of the Left and Right caucus on Thursday night prior to the conference, when a decision is expected to be made.

TWU boss Tony Sheldon -- who was elected as one of the party's vice-presidents last Friday -- said he supported a platform policy change but a conscience vote should override it.

SDA national secretary Joe de Bruyn said he did not support a party platform change. "Our position is very clear. We support the Prime Minister," he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillard-courts-right-faction/story-fn59niix-1226208565740

meanwhile .....

Civil unions are expected to be narrowly approved in Queensland parliament on Thursday, ramping up pressure on Labor the day before gay marriage is debated at the ALP national conference.

The bill to formalise same-sex unions is expected to succeed on Labor numbers, despite at least three MPs tipped to use a conscience vote and oppose the bill.

Deputy premier Andrew Fraser, who introduced the private member's bill last month, said the vote would be tight and attacked the Liberal National Party for ruling out a conscience vote.

"There is a fear within the LNP that some members actually support civil unions, and those votes could get the legislation over the line," Mr Fraser said.

It is expected the bill will be passed 48 votes to 39 to allow Queenslanders to form civil unions, as occurs in Tasmania, Victoria and the ACT.

Queensland has a 89-member parliament but independent Rob Messenger -- who opposes the bill -- has been suspended and will not be able to vote.

Three of Labor's 51 MPs are expected to vote against the bill: former minister Margaret Keech, backbencher Jo-Anne Miller and parliamentary secretary Michael Choi.

They join the 31 LNP members who will vote as a block, despite the personal views of leader Campbell Newman and opposition frontbencher Glen Elmes who have spoken out in support of civil unions.

Six of the seven independents or minor party representatives declared their opposition to the bill.

Australian Christian Lobby Queensland director Wendy Francis said some MPs were still considering their vote but warned them against ignoring the wishes of their constituents. "There's a number of them who are happy to meet with me," she said.

"It seems the ALP is taking this on vote very seriously."

Mrs Francis said Child Safety and Sport Minister Phil Reeves, who represents the southern Brisbane electorate of Mansfield, should remember the "influential" churches in his electorate.

Member for Toowoomba North Kerry Shine -- who voted against a bill to allow the cloning of embryos for stem cell research in 2007 -- yesterday said he remained undecided.

Mrs Francis said the timing of the vote was significant, coming ahead of this week's Labor national conference to discuss a push from the Left for gay marriage.

"I would urge them not to fall into the party politics of it," she said. "This bill is mimicking marriage and the Labor conference is discussing marriage -- Queensland doesn't have any say in marriage."

"I still think it's ridiculous that our Treasurer is pushing this when we are in dire financial straits, whatever you believe on this issue."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/states-same-sex-nod-to-stir-forum-debate/story-e6frgczx-1226208590528

an abuse of office .....

Many politicians appreciate the freedom for debate and personal reflection that comes with conscience votes, but this is exactly why they are so dangerous. For conscience votes have the potential to undermine one of the defining principles of secular liberal democracy: the separation of religion and politics. This is a peril that will be clearly observable in the debate over same-sex marriage at the upcoming ALP conference.

To see this threat to our civic way of life, we need to remember that elected politicians occupy public offices to represent their constituents and to serve the public interest. How though should we understand the link between representation and the public interest?

Political theory offers a few answers to this question. One is that politicians are trustees, appointed by their electors to represent their interests in virtue of their superior legislative and public policy knowledge - because they know better. When prime minister John Howard introduced strict gun laws despite their unpopularity in his rural support base, he was acting as a trustee of the public good.

Another position holds that politicians are elected because the bundle of policies and promises they offered at election time was preferred to those competing bundles that were also on offer. Here the role of organised political parties comes clearly into view, as the source and primary marketing agent of the product on offer.

A further view holds that a politician should cleave to public opinion as closely as possible, and this is the context in which we normally hear that nasty word, "populism".

We know from empirical research that politicians will tend to hold a mix of these views, but the point to underline is that all these visions of politics require the politician to fulfil their public office rather than pursue private interests. This includes personal moral and religious interests. We are perfectly comfortable calling politicians corrupt when they steal from the public purse, but we are inconsistent when we do not decry injecting personal religious belief into legislation that will govern the lives of all Australians, regardless of faith.

To be more specific, the problem with conscience votes is that they obscure the difference between the politician's duty as a public office holder and the personal duties to which they may subscribe as an adherent of a morality, ideology or religion. Unlike a party platform, committee deliberations, or a parliamentary inquiry, conscience doesn't actually inform voting. It tells us only to look inside ourselves but not what we'll find there, which could be all sorts of things: university-student ideologies, religious convictions, moral visions. It is the role of political parties and the ritual of parliamentary process to discipline these private enthusiasms by subjecting them to the duties invested in the public office of a politician.

And here we come upon a paradox, as conscience votes are usually allowed when party leaders calculate that they cannot in fact impose the discipline of the platform on their members. This incapacity is often caused by the religious commitments of a sizeable party faction, as is the case with the resistance to same-sex marriage by the ALP Catholic Right. When it comes to the issues of gay marriage, euthanasia and abortion, the Catholic Right functions as a Trojan horse carrying sectional religious duties into the party and the public office of the politician, robbing them of the capacity to represent a general electorate.

We can bolster this aspect of our political system by coming to see that using a conscience vote to avoid serving a secular public interest is not so different from awarding a public contract to someone because they are a family member. We expect public officers to subject their private attachments to the discipline of the office they hold, by treating the family member as just another prospective employee, and thus to award the contract based on merit.

The merit of same sex-marriage legislation must be weighed according to some mix of public policy criteria, notions of discrimination, and popular support. That the appropriate mix will differ between politicians and be fiercely debated is simply the outcome proper to liberal democracy.

But to judge legislation according to the requirements of religious belief is to avoid the discipline of public life, and we should loudly and clearly call this abuse of office.

Dr Ryan Walter lectures in politics at the School of Politics and International Relations at the Australian National University.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/conscience-votes-corrupt-our-political-system-20111129-1o4tr.html

the great policy frolic .....

Delegates!

 

From all of us at NSW ALP headquarters, home of the Labor Right, a warm welcome to Sydney and our party's 46th national conference this weekend. To add to the excitement of this historic occasion, our Sussex Street experts have put together a unique collection of gifts and souvenirs to delight every true believer. Place your bids for these must-have items at our silent auction.

 

A premier four-piece knife and hatchet set

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A night in old Tuscany

 

Learn the secrets of crunching those big deals as you enjoy a six-course Italian gourmet banquet at Leichhardt's famed Tuscany restaurant with your hosts Ian Macdonald, former NSW energy minister, and businessmen Ron Medich and Lucky Gattellari. Wines include the Henschke Hill of Grace shiraz 2006 at $599 a bottle. Afterwards, be pampered at the five-star Four Seasons hotel with a soothing massage from one of our exquisite Asian beauties. Donated by Rivercorp.

 

Fabulous Malaysia

 

Join an Afghan refugee family on the trip of a lifetime with our Malaysian Solution Package. Details TBA, but will include one-way economy class tickets for two to Kuala Lumpur. Donated by Chris Bowen, federal Minister for Immigration and Citizenship.

 

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Seachange sun'n'surf opportunity

 

NSW party colleagues Mark Arbib, Eric Roozendaal and the Obeid family enjoy the year-round delights of an Aussie coastal lifestyle. Now, you can too, in this luxury, developer-designed and decorated, four-bedroom executive townhouse at Sydney's sparkling Maroubra Beach. Value: $1.2 million. The donor has asked to remain anonymous.

 

Democracy at work

 

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By all accounts, the hot topics at the ALP conference will be gay marriage and uranium sales to India.

 

Furious opposition to gays and lesbians enjoying the same marital rights as the rest of us will come from the likes of Joe de Bruyn, secretary of the country's biggest union, the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association. Usually, but inexplicably, referred to as "the influential Joe de Bruyn", he is a devout Catholic renowned for toeing the Vatican line on abortion, IVF, gay rights, euthanasia and all that limp-wristed social policy stuff. Not unlike Tony Abbott, really.

 

De Bruyn will no doubt claim he has the support of his union's 230,000 members although, as far as I can find out, they've never been given a chance to vote on it. Which says a lot about union bosses throwing their weight around in the ALP as they please. If you want to know why Labor voters are deserting to the Greens in droves, look no further.

 

The debate should be fast and fierce. As always, I urge compromise. Labor must merge both policies into a seamless whole, with a resolution calling for the export of gay marriage to India. This would put cutting-edge Aussie know-how at the forefront of the drive to slow the global population explosion.

 

Mike Carlton

phoney values .....

Two separate private member's bills to legalise same-sex marriage will be introduced today in a historic move for the gay rights movement.

Labor backbencher Stephen Jones will present his bill to legalise gay marriage while Greens MP Adam Bandt and Tasmanian independent Andrew Wilkie will sponsor a second bill.

Mr Wilkie's bill, however, carries a caveat that religious ministers will not be obliged to perform same-sex ceremonies.

But with Labor MPs allowed a conscience vote on the issue, the twin bills appear doomed to be voted down by the combined forces of its Labor opponents - including Prime Minister Julia Gillard - and the Coalition.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has refused to allow a conscience vote and warned Liberal MPs last year against crossing the floor in contravention of party policy, which opposes same-sex marriage.

Yet another bill seeking to legalise same-sex marriage will be introduced later this year with the Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young announcing her intentions to seeking to present a bill in the upper house.

Mr Bandt has aired fears Labor and the opposition have colluded to water down Mr Jones' bill to civil unions, which is not expected to go to a vote for several months.

But Mr Jones told ABC radio today that assertion ''was putting the cart before the horse''.

The expected introduction of the backbencher's bill comes after December's national conference voted to reverse the party's long-standing opposition to same-sex marriage.

While Mr Jones will make history as the first ALP member to attempt to legalise same-sex marriage; he will also be the first government MP to introduce a bill that is voted down by his own party.

The member for the blue-collar seat of Throsby in the Illawarra region in NSW, says he has the support of ministers and of the Left but admits he does not expect the bill - which will propose to amend the Marriage Act to include gay and lesbian couples - to pass the House of Representatives.\But he said the prospect of defeat was not a deterrent as the legislation was ''a reflection of the basic Labor Party values of equity and fairness''. ''I have not been a crusader on this issue,'' Mr Jones said. ''I came late but it is about how we treat people and the respect we afford their choices.''

Labor backbencher Andrew Leigh said this morning he intended to support the Jones bill while his Western Sydney MP colleague, David Bradbury. confirmed he would not vote to legalise gay marriage.

Gay Marriage Bills