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one word: kupyansk....![]() Ukraine working with US to look for 'compromises that strengthen, not weaken us,' Zelenskyy says Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy insisted that “the core principle that kept Europe peaceful longer than at any other time in its history must be respected,” as borders should not be changed by force. Speaking via a videolink at the opening session of the Crimea Platform parliamentary summit in Sweden, he warned that if this principle “does not work in Europe, then were will it work?” Talking about the Geneva talks this weekend, he said Ukraine was “working closely with the US, with European partners, and many, many others to define steps that can end Russia’s war against us … and bring real security” He said that the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, wanted to get “legal recognition for what he has stolen to break the principle of territorial integrity and sovereignty.” He praised the talks with the US, saying they agreed on “extremely sensitive” points on the release of Ukrainian prisoners of war and Ukrainian children abducted by Russia, but noted that “to achieve real peace, more is needed.” “We all continue working with partners, especially the United States, and look for compromises that strengthen but not weaken us, and we will continue explaining how dangerous it is to pretend that aggression is something one can simply overlook and move on.” He urged leaders to “not be passive observers of history” and “do not stay silent,” but defend the key principles of postwar peace in Europe: “that borders cannot be changed by force, that war criminals must not escaped justice, and that the aggressor must pay fully for the war it started.” Picking up on that last point, he said that “this is why decisions on Russian assets are essential,” as he asked them to “support these decisions and keep pressure on Russia.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTMH3JH2Qhc Ukraine's 'Saigon Moment' is Here
Watch the full conversation here - • Trump's Fake Gaza Peace | Ukraine Can't Wi... In this video, Peter Erickson breaks down: Why Trump's peace plan is actually unacceptable to Russia (despite media claims it "gives Putin everything") KEY TIMESTAMPS: The West promised Ukraine victory. Instead, they've delivered destruction. Every peace offer Russia makes gets harsher. Every month, more Ukrainian soldiers die for a cause that was lost before it began. This isn't Russian propaganda—this is reality breaking through the wall of Western denial. The losing side doesn't get to dictate peace terms. And Ukraine is losing.
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AS PUTIN SAYS, EITHER THE EU AND KIEV ARE DECEITFULLY BULLSHITTING [HE DID NOT USE THIS WORD] (ESPECIALLY THEMSELVES) OR THEY ARE INCOMPETENT [HE SAID: OF LOW COMPETENCY].... HE ALSO EXPLAINS ON HOW THE KIEV REGIME WAS CLAIMING ON NOVEMBER 4, THAT IN KUPYANSK THERE WERE ONLY 60 RUSSIAN SOLDIERS SOON TO BE PUSHED OUT BY THE GLORIOUS YUCKRAINIAN FORCES, WHEN IN FACT 99 PER CENT OF THE CITY WAS ALREADY IN RUSSIAN MILITARY HANDS.... THE WEST BULLSHITS THROUGH THE RASPY VOICE OF THE MASTER EMBEZZLER OF WESTERN CASH — AGENT ZELENSKY.... PUTIN ADDED THAT MORE "KUPYANSK" WERE COMING.... SEE ALSO: 'Surrender Or Perish': Putin's Lethal Message To Zelensky; Russian Military BOMBARDS Kharkiv City====================
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The Dangerous, Unhinged Reaction to Trump’s Ukraine Peace Plan
Russia hawks could spoil diplomacy and doom Ukrainians.
BY Andrew Day
President Donald Trump has magicked up some unexpected momentum in Russia–Ukraine peace talks by proposing a 28-point settlement to the war. You might think Ukraine’s Western supporters would welcome the chance for peace, considering how dreadfully the war is going for Ukrainians.
You might be wrong.
Blowhards on both sides of the Atlantic reacted with moral outrage, depicting the proposal as a forced capitulation for Volodymyr Zelensky and a wish list for Vladimir Putin. A rumor even spread that the plan was literally Russian, authored by the Kremlin and transmitted to Washington for delivery to Kiev (a rumor swiftly batted down by Axios and the White House). Thomas Friedman of The New York Timeswrote that, if the “surrender” plan is imposed on Zelensky by Thanksgiving, then Turkey Day “will become a Russian holiday.”
This is laughable stuff. But it’s also maddeningly counterproductive. Trump’s peace plan is about as balanced as Ukraine could realistically hope, given Russia’s momentum on the battlefield. Even so, Zelensky may not have the political leeway to accept it, since doing so would risk a revolt by hardline nationalists. One idea that I heard while in Kiev last month is that Zelensky needs Trump to play the bad guy and force him to accept a deal.
If that’s right, then the Thomas Friedmans of the world—the people insisting that Trump’s plan surrenders Ukraine’s freedom, so Zelensky cannot possibly accept it—are acting as peace-spoilers, not democracy-defenders.
They are reducing the political cover the White House is providing Zelensky to “reluctantly” make a deal. Unwittingly (I hope), they are raising the pressure on Zelensky to continue a war that Ukraine is losing, and on Trump to insert poison pills into the agreement that Moscow cannot accept. They just might succeed. As always, the ones who will pay the costs are the Ukrainians themselves.
If the Trump deal really was a giveaway to Putin, then the critics would have a stronger case. But it’s not.
The very first point—Ukraine’s sovereignty will be confirmed—alone makes it a good deal for Kiev. Under the agreement, Ukraine would remain a sovereign nation-state free to join the European Union and become the Western-style democracy that so many Ukrainians want their nation to be. As Anatol Lieven of the Quincy Institute writes, “An agreement that leaves three quarters of Ukraine independent and with a path to EU membership would in fact be a Ukrainian victory, albeit a qualified one.”
So, what are the critics carping about?
One common objection is that the plan requires Ukrainian forces to withdraw from parts of the Donetsk province that Kiev still controls. To be sure, that’s a bitter pill for Ukrainians to swallow. But Russia is gobbling up that territory anyway and will capture all of it sooner or later if the war continues. The Trump plan offers Ukraine something better, turning this territory into a “neutral demilitarized buffer zone” that Russian forces may not enter.
Critics have also objected to point number 6: “The size of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be limited to 600,000 personnel.” On CNN, Josh Rogin of the Washington Post depicted the plan as forcing Ukrainians to give up “their right to have a military.”
That characterization is absurd. The plan allows Ukraine to maintain a military more than twice as large as when Russia invaded in early 2022—and probably larger than Ukraine would field in peacetime anyway. By the way, does anyone actually believe that Putin—whose war aims include the “demilitarization” of Ukraine—authored this provision or was happy to learn of it?
Europe’s “Big Three”—Britain, France, and Germany—have drafted a “counterproposal” that amounts to nothing more than edits to the U.S. proposal, all of which make the deal less attractive to Moscow or Washington or both. One wonders why they haven’t created a proposal of their own or established diplomatic channels with Moscow—and whether their true aim is to sabotage U.S. diplomacy and fight Russia “to the last Ukrainian,” as antiwar voices have alleged.
Happily, the past few days have also brought fair assessments of the Trump deal, including from surprising sources. Damir Marusic of the Washington Post writes that “the plan is not necessarily the disaster depicted in much Western media.” He reports that an “adviser close to Zelensky” saw the proposal as an “opportunity” and “starting point” for negotiation. The adviser “insisted that Ukraine must face reality and stop the bloodshed.”
More surprisingly still, the pro-Ukraine historian Niall Ferguson wrote on X, “Contrary to recent press speculation, the draft 28-point plan for peace in Ukraine is in fact a reasonable basis for negotiations.” Zelensky’s former press secretary, Iuliia Mendel, offered the most poignant defense of the proposal. “Every subsequent deal for Ukraine will only be worse—because we are losing,” she wrote. “We are losing people, territory, and the economy.”
This is a crucial, and perilous, moment for Ukraine. But sanity is dawning on the Western world, and not a moment too soon. Trump just might get Ukraine out of its current mess—unless its “supporters” find a way to screw everything up.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-dangerous-unhinged-reaction-to-trumps-ukraine-peace-plan/
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YOURDEMOCRACY.NET RECORDS HISTORY AS IT SHOULD BE — NOT AS THE WESTERN MEDIA WRONGLY REPORTS IT — SINCE 2005.
Gus Leonisky
POLITICAL CARTOONIST SINCE 1951.
THE TRUTH IS SAD: TRUMP IS BULLSHITTING TO HIMSELF AS WELL ABOUT HIS MAGIC ART OF THE DEAL....