Friday 26th of April 2024

of conservatives, CONservatives and a bottler...

TRUMP

There are various formats of conservatives in the USA. The two main branches are the mildish conservatives and the CONservatives — or in other words the paleoconservatives and the neocons, with some crossover due to the religious traditionalists and evangelicals.

 


The major difference is that the paleoconservatives are happy to mind their own business in the world, while the neocons want to change the entire planet to their way of doing "freedom", including waging illegal war for this aim.
Conservatives are usually tradition-based in their thinking. No feminism here. New ideas are usually viewed with suspicion. Age-old rituals are at the centre of the core values on family, country, patriotism, religious values, gun rights and mercantilism of free-market — as long as it's profitable to Conservatism. Self-defence can be twisted quickly into a "justified" act of aggression in this conglomerate of old-fashioned ideals. There is an absolutism and a somewhat dangerous determined extremism in these visions.
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According to Wikipedia:

American conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, feminism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Conservatives support capitalism and free market. 

Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, and opposition to high taxes and government, or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives usually place individual liberty as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice.

Historians argue that the conservative tradition has played a major role in American politics and culture since the 1790s. However they have stressed that an organized conservative movement has played a key role in politics only since the 1950s. The recent movement is based in the Republican Party, though some Democrats were also important figures early in the movement's history.

The history of American conservatism has been marked by tensions and competing ideologies. Fiscal conservatives and libertarians favor small government, low taxes, limited regulation, and free enterprise. 

Social conservatives see traditional social values as threatened by secularism; they tend to support voluntary school prayer and oppose abortion and same sex marriage. Some also want the teaching of intelligent design or creationism allowed, as the topics are currently judicially prohibited in public schools. The 21st century has seen an increasingly fervent conservative support for Second Amendment rights of private citizens to own firearms. 

Neoconservatives want to expand American ideals throughout the world.

Paleoconservatives advocate restrictions on immigration, non-interventionist foreign policy, and stand in opposition to multiculturalism. Nationwide most factions, except some libertarians, support a unilateral foreign policy, and a strong military. The conservative movement of the 1950s attempted to bring together these divergent strands, stressing the need for unity to prevent the spread of "godless communism."

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We have dealt with the Neocons in "The Age of Deceit" introduction. They basically lie and are bellicose.

So where does trump fits in these models? For most of the conservatives he is a loose cannon. He cannot be trusted. He espouses conservatives ideals but they are muddled and conflicted — and often are over the top, dangerously expressed and loony, even for conservatives. The main problem with most conservatives is that Trump is popular. And I mean po-pu-lar. They did not expect this and it shows their lack of judgement. Due to his exposure on TV and his various one liners such as "you're fired", Trump has conquered a large portion of the unthinking masses. His Miss Worlds or Miss Universes has also got him a lot of traction with people who think that goddesses should show their legs but not be heard. Big points.

Most of the religious mob is spitting chips though. The evangelicals who subscribe to Trump do it because he is the only big cheese between the Democrats and the White House. These evangelicals will delude themselves into believing that Trump is a religious man. But they don't want another Democrat President making rulings about transgenders' pissoirs. Nor do they want abortions. Another major obstacle for Republicans is that Trump seems he does not want to play the Neoconic game and wants to be friend with Russia. This is totally unbelievable anathema.

In this atmosphere, one can note from various corners of the globe that all the pure Neocons in the English hegemony — that world ruled by America telling other nations what to do — there is an urgency at trying to create a major conflict with the Russians and a small one with the Chinese before the end of the Obama presidency — just so, that the next president, no matter who she is, is left with holding the glorious can of Neoconservatism.

The study of a magazine such as The American Conservative is interesting in its exposition of the lurking demons in the Republican party. This magazine was created by paleoconservatives and they have little desire in supporting the Neocons. None whatsoever. But in their opposition to and exposure of the Neocons' duplicitous travails, they have lost their way and have basically helped in the rise of Trump which is not much better. Sadly, there was no-one better...

At the moment the paleoconservatives are scrambling to collect some dudes with a bit more seriousness in vision and ability, but it's last minute stuff. The Cruzes and the Rubios were appalling candidates, and all the others were pretty absent in the pigeon loft department. The loft is where we breed racing birds or lame duds with poop everywhere. 

 

So here comes Sasse:


Ben Sasse is the man of the hour. On this first-term Republican senator from Nebraska lie the hopes of conservatives opposed to presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

Conservative columnists beg him to run for president. Erick Erickson, arguably the right’s best-known blogger, calls him a hero and “the voice of intellectual conservatives in the United States.”

Sasse got their hopes up by being one of the first elected Republicans to say, in effect, “Never Trump.” “My current answer for who I would support in a hypothetical matchup between Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton is: Neither of them,” Sasse wrote in a widely circulated Facebook post. “I sincerely hope we select one of the other GOP candidates, but if Donald Trump ends up as the GOP nominee, conservatives will need to find a third option.”

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/sasse-savior/

 

But for the paleoconservatives, this move could be too late. If fact, even for many other conservatives, Hillary Clinton is palatable, more palatable than Trump. But Hillary has to defeat Sanders and this battle may go to the wire considering that Sanders is truer left and Hillary is a Hawk.

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The other day, a question popped up on a Facebook thread I was commenting on: “Where is Victoria Nuland?” The short answer, of course, is that she is still holding down her position as assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.

But a related question begs for a more expansive response: Where will Victoria Nuland be after January? Nuland is one of Hillary Clinton’s protégés at the State Department, and she is also greatly admired by hardline Republicans. This suggests she would be easily approved by Congress as secretary of state or maybe even national-security adviser—which in turn suggests that her foreign-policy views deserve a closer look.

Nuland comes from what might be called the First Family of Military Interventionists. Her husband, Robert Kagan, is a leading neoconservative who co-founded the Project for the New American Century in 1998 around a demand for “regime change” in Iraq. He is currently a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, an author, and a regular contributor to the op-ed pages of a number of national newspapers. He has already declared that he will be voting for Hillary Clinton in November, a shift away from the GOP that many have seen as a clever career-enhancing move for both him and his wife.



http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/

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There you have it... It's possible that whoever wins the race to the White House has to pop a Trump bubbly in celebration of winning the booby prize...

Meanwhile NATO is trying its darkest to provoke the Russians while the Americans are niggling at the Chinese. It could turn ugly.

 

the wife of the penguin...

 

Robert Kagan, mentioned above as the husband of Victoria Nuland, is the other half of the Project for A new American Century, now morphed into the glorious FPI (Foreign Policy Initiative) which is an aggressive think tank designed to encourage (advise) the US government make other nations tighten their butt in fear or in debt of the USA. If you don't salute, you will be economically destroyed or bombed. Europe, Iraq, and a host of minor Latin America countries have been targeted. Russia is on top of the list of targets and Ukraine is a big chunk of the former Eastern Block being slowly imported into the US Empire, with bribes, pats on the back and other corrupt incentives. Europe is being used to achieve the US aim against Russia through NATO and other crap.

The way the threats are made range from the very subtle including economic "gifts" or agreements such as dreadful TTiPs designed to favour Yamerika, to the not so subtle. The end argument is "we won't defend you against the Russians if you don't let us screw you". It's simple. Straight to the point. And look at our glorious Empire army doing manoeuvres in your flat country...

Hidden destruction include currency manipulations, secret offers of cash (Greece) and, discounts and goods devised to divided countries and break alliance of countries, such as the EU. Rome did the same, including the surface warfare. 

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Is the concept that Nuland could be working as Secretary of State for Clinton a piece of disinformation from the conservative side of politics or is it a real possibility?

 

Meanwhile:

bottler/ˈbɒtlə/noun

  1. a person or company that bottles drinks.
  2. a person with little mental strength or resilience.
  3. an admirable person or thing.

 

mentioning the penguin again...

 

From Noah Millman...

 

Is there a third-party perspective that would appeal to the hodgepodge of weirdos who read TAC? From one perspective, Donald Trump, by his victory, has vindicated many of the causes for which this magazine was founded in opposition to the conservative movement. From another perspective, he represents the final nail in the coffin of anything that can be called conservative. And it’s possible for both perspectives to be true.

For myself, I’ll be rooting for Hillary Clinton in November. I don’t like her, and I strongly disagree with her in the area – foreign policy – where she demonstrates the strongest convictions. But while, contra Robert KaganI don’t think Donald Trump actually represents an incipient fascism, I do think he’d make a disastrous president, and far worse than Hillary Clinton. And while I delighted at his destruction of a Republican leadership that most definitely deserved destroying, I kind of don’t want him to do the same to the United States of America.

But, particularly since Clinton is certain to win New York no matter what, I’ll definitely be looking at the other choices. And I would be happy if there were a viable small-is-beautiful voice – clean, devolutionist, tolerant and pacifistic – to throw my vote away on. Even though, really, I want the president to be someone colder and tougher-minded than, I don’t know, Zephyr Teachout.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/what-would-a-viable-third-party-look-like-in-2016/

 

Robert Kagan would hate Trump not because of fascism, but because of Trump's desire to be friend with Russia... Kagan wants war with Russia.

yes, these people are mad...

Less than a week after Russia marked its annual Victory Day commemoration of the end of the Second World War, NATO troops began planned military exercises in Estonia all the way up to Russia’s border. It begs the question – are these people actually mad?

Many countries and many people suffered enormously during World War Two. It was the first conflict in history in which technology played a dominant part in the air, on land, and at sea, allowing for the development of weaponry of unparalleled destructive force, power, and reach. Add to this the brutality and barbarism of the fascist ideology that underpinned the war, with its objective of eradicating entire peoples from the earth, the carnage that ensued was inevitable.

No country suffered more than the Soviet Union over the course of the war, and no people suffered more than the Russian people, who made up the vast bulk of the Soviet population. It is estimated that between 25-30 million Russian and Soviet citizens perished, while the country itself was devastated, turned upside down and inside out.

Consequently, this is a conflict that left deep and eternal scars on the Russian psyche. It is something that Western ideologues either fail to understand, or do understand and don’t care. How else are we to explain NATO military exercises in Estonia starting in the wake of the annual Victory Day commemoration? How else are we to explain the said exercises being conducted on the Estonian-Russian border? Above all, how are we to explain that among the 5,000 or so NATO troops taking part are German and Estonian troops?

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/343438-drills-nato-russia-estonia/

 

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the lost conservative tribe of america...

 

Reflecting on the coming nomination of Donald Trump, former Ronald Reagan associate Peggy Noonan hits where it hurts: “A large portion of the Republican base no longer sees itself as conservative, at least as that has been defined the past 15 years by Washington writers and thinkers.”

The no less perceptive progressive intellectual William Galston described the nomination of Trump as “the third major revolution in the Republican Party since World War II.”

Noonan believes Trump’s success was in reaction to George W. Bush’s attachment to neoconservatism and Barack Obama’s to “international climate change agreements and leftist views of gender, race and income inequality,” both of which ideologies came across as indifference to real people’s problems. Trump represented himself as being “on America’s side,” humanizing both abstractions and eschewing traditional ideologies, standing against both obviously failed alternatives.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-right-message-after-trump/

 

The present conservatives in the GOP (grand old party) of the Republicans is now a conglomerate of people who think being a conservative is to make as much money as possible in a game with no rules defining robbery, in which extortion and massive tax avoidance are legally bordeline — the lot being absolved by giving some charitable crumbs to one's own kind (here I mean tax deductible donations to political parties such as the GOP or conservative think tanks that work new ways to rort the system legally) to make one feel generously good.