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the stench of the moral majority .....‘As a further mark of respect to the memory of Jerry Laymon Falwell, Sr., the founder of the Moral Majority and Liberty University, NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, in honor and tribute to the memory of Jerry Falwell, and as an expression of public sorrow, do appoint Wednesday, May 16, 2007, as a National Day of Mourning across the surface of God's toy ball "earth". I call on Christian peoples to assemble on that day in their Bible-believing Baptist Churches, there to pay homage to the memory of Jerry Falwell. I invite the people of the world who share our grief to join us in this solemn observance. And every student has a get out of school free card if they promise to take five minutes to pray and thank God for Jerry Falwell’s ministry, on this day forward for every year to come, so be it in Jesus’ name, A-men. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fifteenth day of May in the year of America's Lord Jesus H. Christ two thousand seven, and of the Utterly Total Superiority of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-second.’
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Is this the new Miranda?
"A scene from The Root of All Evil?, a two-part television series on religion by Richard Dawkins, shows Dawkins accusing the evangelical pastor the Reverend Ted Haggard of running worship sessions in the way the Nazis ran their rallies."
and ending up with:
"Whatever language is used, it is this poetic dimension of the spiritual life that Dawkins, Onfray and friends have no ear to hear or eye to see. If Germany in 1933 had been invaded by people in prayer singing "Praise Jesus" instead of Nazis in jackboots it would not have presided over the worst mass killing in history."
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Gus: Omeegodsh.... Obviously Rachael Kohn is too young to remember the reality of Nazism... According to my memory and study of the record, Hitler WAS very religious and USED religion as a tool to motivate Christians against the Jews... This throughout Europe created some confusion in the purpose of the why-fore.
Just to refresh her memory:
Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country.
and amongst a multitudinous amount of evidence:
The German words, "Gott Mit Uns" means God With Us and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII.
On the other side of the equation, the strange relationship between Pope Pius XII and the Nazis was at some stage very puzzling... Despite the Catholic Pope declaring neutrality at the war's onset and denouncing a few early Nazi atrocities, The following notes were not so clean:
In 1941, Pius XII interpreted Divini Redemptoris, an encyclical of Pope Pius XI, which forbade Catholics to help Communists, as not applying to military assistance to the Soviet Union. This interpretation assuaged American Catholics who had previously opposed Lend-Lease arrangements with the Soviet Union.
In March 1942, Pius XII established diplomatic relations with the Japanese Empire. In May 1942, Kazimierz Papée, Polish ambassador to the Vatican, complained that Pius had failed to condemn the recent wave of atrocities in Poland; when Cardinal Secretary of State Maglione replied that the Vatican could not document individual atrocities, Papée declared, "when something becomes notorious, proof is not required."
Pius XII's famous Christmas broadcast on the Vatican Radio delivered December 24, 1942—which at 26 pages and over 5000 words took more than 45 minutes to deliver—remains a "lightning rod" in debates about Pope Pius XII during the war, particularly the Holocaust.[64] The majority of the speech spoke generally about human rights and civil society; at the very end of the speech, Pius seems to turn to current events, albeit not specifically, referring to "all who during the war have lost their Fatherland and who, although personally blameless, have simply on account of their nationality and origin, been killed or reduced to utter destitution.
As the war was approaching its end in 1945, Pius advocated a lenient policy by the Allied leaders in an effort to prevent what he perceived to be the mistakes made at the end of World War...
So there, Ms Kohn, Nazis and religious fanatics (Catholics and Protestants alike) walked hand in hand, and Dawkins is correct. His only mistake is to add a question mark after "The Root Of All Evil?", as one cannot go pass the argument if we have no "God", we cannot have "Evil", just stupidity and pain and vicarious desires. As I have debated often on this site: the battle between "Good and Evil" is a human invention due to our lack of knowledge that faith cannot see because faith is blind. But when one believe, one is always going to have to reject reality and evidence with a zeal beyond stupidy that is dangerous...
And in regard to preaching what one does not do...
Ted Haggard
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ted Arthur Haggard (born June 27, 1956) is a former American evangelical preacher. Known as Pastor Ted to the congregations he has served, he is the founder and former pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado; a founder of the Association of Life-Giving Churches; and was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003[1] until November 2006.
In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership positions after allegations of homosexual sex and drug abuse were made by whistleblower Mike Jones, a former male prostitute. Initially Haggard denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list of confessions.[2]
After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007, one of those ministers, Tim Ralph stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual."[3] Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help to embrace his heterosexual side."[4]
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Gus: Ted Haggard would have posed a dilemma for the Nazi, but not for long... He would have been sent to concentration camps forthwith... I personally do not have a beef with him having relationships with a gay man, nor for his use of Amphetamines, not even in the hypocrisy of his "clean skin" and the denials, then admission of bad behaviour... My dear Rachael, it's up to his flock to wake up...
But they might "forgive him"... for what?... Then they would pray harder to god as if...
And then believe the man succumbed to the devil? Ratshit! That's where it stinks! In the core of this "belief".