The way the war on Isis (or Isil) is presented to us even by decent journalists, we've got to ask: "is the idiocy of Tony Abbott staining everything including my own mind?" No, not me! But even in the usually reasonable press against Abbott, one can notice some weakening at the knees. They buckle under the information that should take us to war. I say BOLLOCKS. 

It's the same fluff that took us to war in Iraq in 2003... Different lie this time, but similarly poised. The Saudis must be laughing and be bemused. They are the Wahhabi that led to this awful stuff that calls itself ISIL, and the strict Wahhabism has infiltrated most of Western mosques and Muslim schools. So what of it? The Arab League is playing a double game here. If you cannot see that, you're more stupid that I thought. We actually should push the Saudis to DIRECTLY fight ISIL, their own kind, without us being involved.

 

No war using "western" countries as front troops. No, Never.  Tony is an idiot because he is unable to see beyond the veil of deceit — even if he is an expert at deceit. Actually Tony is a poor master of deceit and only got away with his cheap deceitful crap because of Rupert Murdoch. 

 

Time we put a stop to Tony's trying to get credits for being brave — while taking this country to war. It's completely insane. Tony is a dangerous insane idiot.

 

Australia in Iraq: the ultimate pragmatist intervention

By Rodger Shanahan

Posted about an hour ago

We need to be very clear about this: Australia's mission in the Middle East is about targeting Islamic State, not making a better Iraqi nation, writes Rodger Shanahan.

The Prime Minister's unsurprising announcement of an Australian military commitment to the US-led anti-Islamic State (IS) coalition answered a few questions and raised others. I think the justification for military intervention in Iraq is relatively straightforward, but the environment within which our forces will operate is anything but.

The mission Tony Abbott described was to "disrupt, degrade and if possible destroy this movement", a better, more nuanced formulation than Obama's simple "degrade and destroy". These are specific military task verbs, and "destroying" something that is not a static target is very difficult.

A movement such as IS can be rendered operationally ineffective to the point that it no longer practically exists, but this will take time. Don't expect a neat surrender.

read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-15/shanahan-australia-in-iraq-the-ultimate-pragmatist-intervention/5744090

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The "ultimate pragmatic intervention"? Insanity rules!... No one in the media is paying attention to the whole game at play here... Journos are up in arms about the beheadings of some of their own kind and so react...

Bollocks, this is exactly what ISIL wants us to do... Try to squash them in Iraq without a plan (there is no plan) will lead to fomenting dissent in our own countries, creating more Jihadists by the truck load, worldwide... They are already implanted here, inside all our Western countries. The best way to deal with ISIL would be to push the Saudis and their allies to go and do the dirty on their own dirt, the ISIL.

The MMMM should do all it can to stop our Turd-in-Chief for taking this good country into a nasty war. It is INSANE. Tony Abbott is a nasty dangerous idiot.

 

 

Tony Abbott says Australian forces' aim is to 'dislodge' Isis from Iraq

PM says taking part in terrorist activity is ‘against God’ and ‘against religion’, as George Brandis denies country is at war

 

Tony Abbott has said the objective of deploying Australian forces in Iraq is to help national and regional authorities maintain internal security and to “dislodge” Islamic State (Isis) militants.

The prime minister said the aim was to “work with the Iraqis, to work with Kurds to ensure that they are able to keep their people safe”, but he was unable to put a timeline on the commitment beyond saying it could last “many, many months”.

Abbott acknowledged that Australian air strikes in Iraq might kill Australian citizens who “took their chances” joining Isis.

The prime minister said one of the main reasons for the government committing to the fight against Isis was that “significant numbers” of Australians were involved with terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria.

“These are ideologues of a new and hideous variety who don’t just do evil but they exalt in doing evil,” Abbott said.

read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/15/tony-abbott-spells-out-objectives-of-military-involvement-against-isis

 

And the media laps the cream... Shocking. 

 

Prime Minister Tony Abbott's decision to deploy 600 military personnel and eight Super Hornets and other planes to the United Arab Emirates will cost Australia at least $400 million a year, a defence analyst predicts.

Dr Mark Thomson, a senior analyst from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, says the cost of sending a soldier to a country like the UAE will be about $670,000 a year.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/iraq-deployment-to-cost-australia-about-400-million-a-year-20140915-10h35o.html#ixzz3DMMA8m4u
It would have been more profitable to spend half as much on saving Holden... Idiot.

 

 

 

From Mungo MacCallum

But of course they won't; it would be just too hard. In Abbott's case it would involve changing the habit of a lifetime; gung ho aggression has been his style from his student days. He admits that the Middle East is a "witches' brew", but is willing to plunge in head first with the eyes of newts and toes of frogs. The dwindling band of pacifists and idealists may demur, but who cares about those lefty wimps?

No doubt the cynics are also right: it is a very welcome distraction from the tangled domestic scene. But Abbott can be counted as at least being somewhat sincere, which is about all we can hope for from today's politicians.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-15/maccallum-sending-our-forces-into-another-mission-impossible/5744482

Hell no, Mungo, Abbott is not sincere in anything he does... It's all about pay-back, populism and self-serving disgusting kudos like pedalling for charity... Tony will flip like a pancake, as soon as he sees mileage to do something contrarily negative that will earn him point to appear doing something positive. I mean it. Tony Abbott lies. He is dishonest. He is so dishonest that he does not trust what he said the day before to the next, and his bed must be crooked... Giving him credit for something, anything, is like walking one foot closer to a cobra about to strike thinking "what a nice looking snake"...

 

 

Geopolitical instability has left many global corporations jittery. 

But the world's biggest arms producers are doing well, with shares of the top 12 publicly listed firms - based on a list by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute - rising by almost 30 per cent on average in the last year.

Stock price data on the 12 companies reveal most have benefitted in a year in which the number of conflict zones in Europe, the Middle East and Africa has risen. 

While some companies have under-performed during the period, many have risen by more than 50 per cent.

The average share rise of 30 per cent compares to a 9.3 per cent gain by the Dow Jones Industrial Average.  

The top 12 listed arms producers include companies such as Boeing, which makes commercial aircraft as well as defence and missile systems. It does not include Chinese companies. 

Nine out of the top 12 companies are based in the United States.

The remaining three - Thales, Finmeccanica and BAE Systems - are based in France, Italy and the UK respectively. 

The company with the biggest share price rise was Italian firm Finmeccanica, whose shares rose 73 per cent since September last year.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/growing-global-conflict-a-bonanza-for-arms-makers-20140915-10h19u.html#ixzz3DNxM9Yro

Mind you the Russians might not do too bad out the western decision to do shit in Syria and Iraq... Meanwhile the Saudis often got their armament for free, the last lot being given to them for not much by George W Bush...The world is an ugly place when our leaders try to make us believe they are driven by morality and justice while they only sell us garbage and the spoils of god.... Dollars.

A joke making the rounds among Russian officials and hacks who take a keen interest in what is going on in the Middle East these days goes something like this: How will the Yanks deal with the Islamic State group? They will create "Islamic State 2", a bigger and better armed group, and let it deal with the original Islamic State group. And what happens when "Islamic State 2" turns against them as it happened with the original Islamic State? They will create "Islamic State 3", and so on.

But seriously, the rise and spread of the Islamic State group is no laughing matter. Now that the US and its allies have finally woken up to the dangers of the spread of the extremist group, the worry in Moscow is that the hotheads in the Pentagon and at Nato headquarters in Brussels will decide to start hitting Islamic State positions in Syria along with "other targets" there as well - for instance, Syrian army positions.

US President Barack Obama has already announced his plan to deal with the group, promising to lead a "broad coalition" that will "roll back this terrorist threat". In Moscow, the fear is that the US will seize this opportunity to intervene in Syria.

The Libyan scenario

According to Valeriy Fenenko from the Moscow Centre for International Security, the US can actually use the presence of the Islamic State group in Syria as a pretext to implement the "Libyan scenario".

"The Americans are bound to try to compensate for their failure last fall," he says. "At first, it will be air strikes against terrorists and then, in parallel, it may amount to helping the moderate opposition. The US may start a creeping interference, like it happened in Bosnia," he said.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/09/russia-warned-yanks-about-islam-201491165841895365.html

 

Attorney-General George Brandis says he is confident Labor will support new national security laws targeting foreign fighters.

The proposed laws would make it an offence to travel to certain areas, such as Syria and Iraq, without a valid reason.

The Government also wants to make it easier for police to obtain control orders to monitor Australians returning from foreign conflicts.

read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-21/brandis-confident-labor-will-support-anti-terrorism-laws/5758794

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Please Labor, don't let this mob of neo-fascists get away with this... especially if ASIO and the AFP are happy about these proposed "laws". There is enough crap to make life difficult for anyone, no need to add more crap to it... Actually the government should encourage the mad young mobs to go and fight in Syria and Iraq under the proviso of coming back in a pine box...

I know we live in different times, but the nazis had less nasty laws that these new proposed ones by the Abbott regime. Please reject all this. 

 

 

Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced on September 14 that Australia would send up to 10air force planes and 600 personnel to the Middle East to join an international coalition against the Islamic State "terrorist threat".

The initial decision stopped short of ordering the forces into combat, but at a media conference on the day of the announcement, Mr Abbott said "obviously that's something that we have in contemplation". He foreshadowed Australians "flying combat missions over Iraq" and "acting as a team of military advisers to Iraqi and Peshmerga armed forces".

He told a media conference on September 16 that Australia was "determined to act forcefully" and was ready to "engage in combat operations inside Iraq". "This is a fight, there's no doubt about that," he said.

But in response to journalists' questions whether this meant Australia was at war, Mr Abbott refused to accept the term. "I think strictly speaking it's best described as a mission rather than as a war," he told Radio 3AW later that day.

read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-03/war-not-a-mission-abbott-incorrect-on-iraq-action-fact-check/5772316

In fact he should call "his mission" a "crusade" (a religious war) and we should kick him in the balls. He lies about what he is involving us into... He is an idiot and a bully, with the syntax of a snake-rat.

 

 

There is a real danger that by a process of incremental tactical adjustments, Australia ends up committing to a multi-year military campaign in the Middle East without articulating a strategy, writes James Brown.

There's a lot to be concerned about in the way Australia is approaching the decision to intervene militarily in the civil war engulfing northern Iraq and Syria.

There has been scant debate of the decision to go to war in Parliament: traveling war memorial exhibitions were more closely examined in Question Time last week than the war ADF personnel are now risking their lives in.

etc...

 

Fallacy 1: There will be no boots on the ground

 

Fallacy 2: This is solely a humanitarian mission

 

 

read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-02/brown-the-five-fallacies-of-our-thinking-on-iraq/5713044

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So far so good 

The author of this piece, James Brown, is a "military fellow" for the Lowry Institute (a mostly right wing organisation)... But then, Brown makes some claims that are not true.

 

Fallacy 3: This is just an extension of the 2003 invasion of Iraq

 

Bronw is wrong on this assessment. We know this conflict is directly a resultant from the Iraq war, in all possible shape or form, even should the "coalition of the willing" not be the same... Since the war in Iraq, that country has been divided along sectarian lines and the dynamics of ISIL is the continuation of the failure by the US to secure the peace in that country. Wahhabism has seize the opportunity to galvanise the Sunnis — even if some Sunnis don't fancy the extremism of ISIL.

 

Fallacy 4: Military action will increase the domestic threat of terrorism in Australia

Brown thinks that military action in Iraq has no domestic repercussions... Who knows. This is an assessment that even ASIO cannot make. But on the score of probability, The present war in Iraq is likely to increase the number of nutcases doing what they thought they could not do before. 

 

Fallacy 5: This problem can be solved without a strategy for Syria

 

Fallacy 5 is near the mark but to some extend we're about to repeat the same mistake that was done with Iraq. THIS DEPEND OF WHAT THE STRATEGY IS. So far the West has no idea on how to deal with a SECULAR  despotic regime that is being fought against by "religious lines" that are far more despotic than the present government... So the clear strategy here is whether we like or not, we cannot but protect a "legitimate" government against "moderate" terrorists we call in this occasion "freedom fighters". The situation is a mess mostly due in the greater part of the Sunnis from the Arab states supporting the "rebellion" from which ISIL was born.

See also:

... ISIS was never in control of more than 25 percent of Kobani, but ISIS dominates Raqqah in northern Syria, one of Syria's largest cities, which is around 70 miles from Kobani. Some US-led airstrikes hit areas near Raqqah, but there were many days, at least 20, where Kobani was the sole target. Many strikes only damaged, or "struck," targets in and around Kobani, including "fighting positions" and "tactical positions," according to Pentagon press releases, which a coalition official tells me are exactly the same thing. He did not clarify how large these areas were, nor if they included buildings or infrastructure. One target could be as small as a motorcycle (US airstrikes have hit two) or as big as a large building.

read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/airstrikes-syria-kobani-statistics-operation-inherent-resolve

Australia has no war business to do in Iraq nor Syria.

 

Senior Cabinet Minister Mathias Cormann has issued an emphatic denial of a news report that Prime Minister Tony Abbott raised the prospect of unilaterally sending thousands of ground troops to Iraq.

The Australian newspaper is reporting that during a meeting on November 25 last year, Mr Abbott suggested sending 3,500 ground troops to confront the Islamic State terrorist group.

The report says Mr Abbott put the idea to leading military planners, who were "stunned" and advised him sending the soldiers without United States or NATO protection would be "disastrous".

Mr Cormann, the Finance Minister, was questioned about the report during a Sky News interview this morning.

"That story is wrong," he said.

"The Prime Minister never sought such advice."

read more:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-21/government-denies-unilateral-push-to-send-ground-troops-to-iraq/6173308

 

Mr Cormann fell short of adding: "The Prime Minister never ever seeks advice anyway"... See toon at top.

 

 

 

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has completed a physical training session with Darwin defence force staff, telling personnel: "If I can't fight with you, at least I can sweat with you".

While in Darwin to officially open a new abattoir, Mr Abbott paid a visit to the Larrakeyah naval base in Darwin.

At an informal breakfast function later, Mr Abbott thanked Navy boat crews for their work patrolling maritime borders and spoke to members of the US Marine Corps, who also took part in the training session which the media was not allowed to not film.

read more: 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-21/abbott-sweats-it-out-with-navy-personnel-in-darwin/6174678

Secret PM business — drowning in his own sweat at a new abbottoir...